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year defense of his dedication to the jewish state. >> our commitment to israel's security must not waver and neither must our pursuit of peace. >> for the president, it's a nuanced approach. when america's threatened, the president doesn't hesitate to act on his own. >> where he determined that we would act unilaterally, it was all about those people, those groups, that threaten us. >> but in a humanitarian crisis like syria's, the president prefers company. and until he has it, he won't act. >> syria has created great outrage and terrible humanitarian anguish but we don't have any international consensus about the way forward. >> it all adds up to what some call the obama doctrine. >> the obama doctrine is less blood, less treasure, less intervention of a lengthy kind. >> though governor romney calls him reluctant to lead. >> the administration has characterized their foreign policy as leading from behind. i call that following. >> these days, his critics have more ammunition with the deaths of ambassador chris stevens and three other americans in libya. it happened on 9/11, raisi
year defense of his dedication to the jewish state. >> our commitment to israel's security must not waver and neither must our pursuit of peace. >> for the president, it's a nuanced approach. when america's threatened, the president doesn't hesitate to act on his own. >> where he determined that we would act unilaterally, it was all about those people, those groups, that threaten us. >> but in a humanitarian crisis like syria's, the president prefers company. and until...
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it's not palestinian authority recognize right of israel to exist and diplomatic relations with israel and us. it's a terrorist group. it seized power in a coup from the palestinian authority. they're bad actors. no nation would put up with what israel has up until now. the situation all over the middle east changed in the last year. egypt no longer run by pro-american dictator and run by leaders of the president brotherhood. should president obama put pressure on the egyptian government. threatening to cut off aid to get them to stop firing rockets? >> they should exert any pressure they can to make sure it doesn't escalate. to a full blown war between the palestinians and the israelis. you know, whatever that takes. now the problem the israelis have is that the rockets are being fired on them from places that they can't reach by flying over in the air. putting them in cool yards where they are surrounded by school children. firing from marketplaces. that are crowded with people. israel has a right to protect itself. sending ground troops in, is the only way they can clean out the nes
it's not palestinian authority recognize right of israel to exist and diplomatic relations with israel and us. it's a terrorist group. it seized power in a coup from the palestinian authority. they're bad actors. no nation would put up with what israel has up until now. the situation all over the middle east changed in the last year. egypt no longer run by pro-american dictator and run by leaders of the president brotherhood. should president obama put pressure on the egyptian government....
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that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me next. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. one big thing on the schedule today that everybody is fairly interested in. that's that lunch with mitt romney. we're told no cameras. we'll see. we of the white house press corps officially protesting. we'd like to force them to let there be some official fourth estate coverage of this historic event. we'll see if they grant it. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. a winter wonderland doesn't just happen. it takes some doing. some coordinating. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things
that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me...
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israel defense minister says iran slowed iranian enrichment timetable to push back the ability to make the nuclear weapons by eight months. the nuclear agency says it will meet with iranians officials next month to restart stalled negotiations. obama administration is dismissing the stories that long-time domestic policy advisor valerie jarret is rung point on evident to get iran back to the table. senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler reports. >> both the white house and the state department deny claims that president obama senior advisor jarret is conducting back channel negotiations with iran over the country nuclear program. fueled by papers and bloggers, some u.s. media outlets note jarret was born in iran to american parents and family moved back about the time she started elementary school. one white house official privately called the report laughable and the state department spokeswoman addressed the question on the record. >> there are no secret talks. y she is a close friend -- she is a close friend from chicago. this is the second time she has been
israel defense minister says iran slowed iranian enrichment timetable to push back the ability to make the nuclear weapons by eight months. the nuclear agency says it will meet with iranians officials next month to restart stalled negotiations. obama administration is dismissing the stories that long-time domestic policy advisor valerie jarret is rung point on evident to get iran back to the table. senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler reports. >> both the white...
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new york congressman steve israel as well as my man that i like to talk about in the future of the republican party, mike murphy. righto my first reads. it took president obama exactly 12 minutes longer to win his second term than a first one. we called the 2000 race at 11:00. this time at 11:12 p.m. we're not even 12 hours removed from that moment yet and it's clear that the second obama term will face enormous challenges in trying to resolve the country's if iscal future and create a governing coalition to make that happen in washington but, first, let's look at how the president made his victory happen. the president put together a decisive electoral college victory winning at least 303 votes to romney's 206 and at this hour in florida where the president leads by it looks like at this moment 50,000 votes, remains too close to call where we think the vote remains should favor the president. those folks in miami-dade are going to start counting votes when they get to work this morning. but those margin of victory was smaller than in 2008. in the end demographics and a strong turnout operati
new york congressman steve israel as well as my man that i like to talk about in the future of the republican party, mike murphy. righto my first reads. it took president obama exactly 12 minutes longer to win his second term than a first one. we called the 2000 race at 11:00. this time at 11:12 p.m. we're not even 12 hours removed from that moment yet and it's clear that the second obama term will face enormous challenges in trying to resolve the country's if iscal future and create a...
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relation also with israel and us. it's a terrorist group sworn to the destruction of israel. it actually seized power in a coo from the palestinian authority. they have to defend their people and their nation. >> but senator chambliss, obviously the situation all over the middle east has changed dramatically in the last year. egypt is no run by a dictator, it's run by the muslim brotherhood. should president obama put more pressure on the egyptian government, even threat tone cutoff aid to get hamas to stop firing those rockets? >> he needs to exert every kind of pressure he can to try to make sure it doesn't escalate into a full-blown war between the palestinians and the israelis. whatever that takes. the problem the israelis have is that these rockets are being fired on them from places they can't reach by flying over in the air. they are putting them in school yards where they are surrounded by school children and they are firing them from marketplace that is are crowded with people. israel has a right to protect i
relation also with israel and us. it's a terrorist group sworn to the destruction of israel. it actually seized power in a coo from the palestinian authority. they have to defend their people and their nation. >> but senator chambliss, obviously the situation all over the middle east has changed dramatically in the last year. egypt is no run by a dictator, it's run by the muslim brotherhood. should president obama put more pressure on the egyptian government, even threat tone cutoff aid...
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between gaza and israel. and including all of the militant groups inside of gaza not just hamas itself. it will take all of them to stop the rocket fire from coming over and the subsequent air strikes that israel does after it is hit. >> all right, sarah, thank you very much. a permanent solution so hard to envision how that could happen. tens of thousands of israelis were called for duty for that possible ground war. fred plafrnken has been with th israeli forces. are they moving back from the border? >> reporter: erin, the troops are still at the border. we're not seeing the troops move away just yet. certainly we believe they're going to stay there for at least another four or five days because, of course, one of the things that the israelis are doing, especially in the next couple of hours, is they're going to be monitoring whether or not the cease-fire is actually being kept by hamas as well. what we've seen so far is there is smaller violations. one or two rockets have been fired out of gaza. the israel
between gaza and israel. and including all of the militant groups inside of gaza not just hamas itself. it will take all of them to stop the rocket fire from coming over and the subsequent air strikes that israel does after it is hit. >> all right, sarah, thank you very much. a permanent solution so hard to envision how that could happen. tens of thousands of israelis were called for duty for that possible ground war. fred plafrnken has been with th israeli forces. are they moving back...
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they hate their neighbor, israel. israel, their neighbor, hates them. most of the area is very, very poor. there is a degree of hopelessness here. they have managed -- the israelis have said to the egyptians, with this deal, now gaza is your problem. if rockets come out of here, the egyptians are going to be responsible for talking to hamas. both of you are sort of from similar parties. the islamic hamas group, which is an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, and the muslim brotherhood in egypt, hamas managed to say, okay, you two sort things out together, and we'll see how this goes. >> richard, one of the other things i was struck by is how vague what both sides agreed to is. both sides have agreed to not breach acts for this understanding. it's almost like a fortune cookie, meaningless vague. does that vagueness make a stronger agreement or a weaker one. does that say anything to you? >> reporter: i think this got lawyered pretty hard. what that means is that israel is not supposed to carry out any sort of targeted assassinations. and when you start t
they hate their neighbor, israel. israel, their neighbor, hates them. most of the area is very, very poor. there is a degree of hopelessness here. they have managed -- the israelis have said to the egyptians, with this deal, now gaza is your problem. if rockets come out of here, the egyptians are going to be responsible for talking to hamas. both of you are sort of from similar parties. the islamic hamas group, which is an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, and the muslim brotherhood in egypt,...
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how about on israel? after the iraq war debacle, the time when the george bush administration turned grief and anger and horror over what happened on 9/11 into a false pretense for attacking a totally unrelated country and starting a war that it took nine years to get out of. ten years on from that unmitigated foreign policy disaster perpetrated by the last republican administration, ten years later, the democrats who went along with that misadventure paid a heavy political price. it's not an accident that so many leading democrats at the time voted to go along with george bush's march to war. it's not an accident that none of them ended up becoming president. it's not an accident that the guy who did become president was the guy who was against the war from the beginning. these are not two unrelated circumstances. the democratic party had a real reckoning about what they got wrong by going along with that bush administration hoax and that disaster perpetrated on the american people. even the press went t
how about on israel? after the iraq war debacle, the time when the george bush administration turned grief and anger and horror over what happened on 9/11 into a false pretense for attacking a totally unrelated country and starting a war that it took nine years to get out of. ten years on from that unmitigated foreign policy disaster perpetrated by the last republican administration, ten years later, the democrats who went along with that misadventure paid a heavy political price. it's not an...
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vote that created the state of israel, the u.n. officially recognized the state of palestine by a vote of 138 to 9 with 41 countries abstaining and the u.s. voting in opposition. palestine status at the u.n. was upgraded to that of nonmember observer state. while they still be only be able to own proceedings, this allows palestine to apply for membership in other international organizations. something both israel and the united states had hoped to avoid. meanwhile in egypt for the seventh day in a row protestors marched in tahrir square to have the constitutional assembly begin voting on a new constitution. yet's egypt supreme court announced that on sunday, it would decide whether or not to dissolve the constitutional assembly so voting was accelerated to perhaps render moot sunday's decision. many of whom are boycotting what they perceive to be a process hijacked by the muslim brotherhood. joining.me is james jeffrey former u.s. america west arena bass der to iraq. he served as the deputy to the president. thank you for your time
vote that created the state of israel, the u.n. officially recognized the state of palestine by a vote of 138 to 9 with 41 countries abstaining and the u.s. voting in opposition. palestine status at the u.n. was upgraded to that of nonmember observer state. while they still be only be able to own proceedings, this allows palestine to apply for membership in other international organizations. something both israel and the united states had hoped to avoid. meanwhile in egypt for the seventh day...
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israel has called up thousands of troops and seems poised to go into the palestinian territory. >> israel will continue to exercise the prudence and self-restraint while defending our citizens against terrorism. >> nbc is reporting from a second day from gaza. what's the situation as we see nightfall there behind you? >> reporter: tamron, it's pitch-black behind me. it has an eerie silence to it. i can tell you from having stayed "up all night" yesterday to the sounds of israeli explosions, that's what people are bracing themselves for. you can't make this point enough, but this part of gaza certainly all across the territory doesn't have early warning signs and sirens like in tel aviv. that's because this is not a war between two equal militaries, and that is why there's a great sense of fear and anxiety among the people of gaza. right now we heard in the past hour or so the sounds of israeli strikes. we occasionally hear the sounds of israeli drones up above overhead. every once in a while we hear the sounds of a palestinian rocket launched from gaza into southern israel, an indication
israel has called up thousands of troops and seems poised to go into the palestinian territory. >> israel will continue to exercise the prudence and self-restraint while defending our citizens against terrorism. >> nbc is reporting from a second day from gaza. what's the situation as we see nightfall there behind you? >> reporter: tamron, it's pitch-black behind me. it has an eerie silence to it. i can tell you from having stayed "up all night" yesterday to the...
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and an interview on channel 2 in israel netanyahu said if someone sits here as prime minister of israel and he can't take action matters that are cardinal to the existence of this country, its future and security, and so totally dependent on receiving approveal from others, then he is not worth of leading. >> israel as a sovereign state has to defend itself and president obama has said publicly that only israel as a sovereign state can best decide how to defend its citizens. >> has anything changed on the timing obviously at the u.n. and very widely seen speech that prime minister netanyahu gave. he gave a timeline of the spring or summer in terms of iran reaching the point where it would have capability for a nuclear weapon. is that still the timeline. >> more specifically prime minister in his speech at the united nations was pointing out the point at which we can no longer prevent iran from acquiring military nuclear capability, nuclear weapons and yes he gave a timeline that mentioned the spring or early summer. >> and it sound like your specifying, you're saying that's the last poi
and an interview on channel 2 in israel netanyahu said if someone sits here as prime minister of israel and he can't take action matters that are cardinal to the existence of this country, its future and security, and so totally dependent on receiving approveal from others, then he is not worth of leading. >> israel as a sovereign state has to defend itself and president obama has said publicly that only israel as a sovereign state can best decide how to defend its citizens. >> has...
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and in to israel in general. the other issues may not necessarily be involved hamas but the egyptians and the smuggling of weapons in to the gaza strip and more often than not go through the sinai peninsula and egypt's territorial waters and probably pressure on egypt to deliver and secure that smuggling route so that weapons don't end up in hamas' hand. that's what they brought to the table. certainly hamas would only do so with assurances that israel going to stop assassination of the leaders and easing of the blockade and we understand issues discussed perhaps in coming days or weeks. it is really -- it goes back to a central issue, this buys time for the people of did za in terms of attacks and doesn't address the larger issue of gaza in context of the ongoing israeli-palestinian conflict and something people say has to be addressed, part of a larger picture. not an isolated one. >> thanks so much. >>> we want to go to tel aviv and correspondent stephanie gosk joins me. as you were hearing in the reporting, u
and in to israel in general. the other issues may not necessarily be involved hamas but the egyptians and the smuggling of weapons in to the gaza strip and more often than not go through the sinai peninsula and egypt's territorial waters and probably pressure on egypt to deliver and secure that smuggling route so that weapons don't end up in hamas' hand. that's what they brought to the table. certainly hamas would only do so with assurances that israel going to stop assassination of the leaders...
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. >> when the united states has glommed on to israel or israel has glommed on to the united states as an ali. in that time line is that israel in going afterra jabari when in breaking a ceasefire. there was a ceasefire in place israel broke. i think if -- it has nothing to do with the u.s. elections and a romney losing and saying we are not going to be part of the u.s. and making your question more ironic. we are israel and will do what we want to do even though our candidate lost and we need their money for the iron dome project. >> we gave them iron dome before the elections and there is no instigation on one side before the u.s. elections. israeli right wing is in charge. if you don't have war you do a peace deal, the right wing loses its reason for existing to some degree. hamas while they are the more militant folks have an incentive to create war. do we have a situation here where we have put the wrong people in charge or incent vise for more war? >> it's not farra fetched when you consider the israeli elections take place of january 2013 and this is netanyahu's way of flexing h
. >> when the united states has glommed on to israel or israel has glommed on to the united states as an ali. in that time line is that israel in going afterra jabari when in breaking a ceasefire. there was a ceasefire in place israel broke. i think if -- it has nothing to do with the u.s. elections and a romney losing and saying we are not going to be part of the u.s. and making your question more ironic. we are israel and will do what we want to do even though our candidate lost and we...
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she went beyond that. >> meanwhile, gas are a firing rockets and israel responded by removing 16,000 reswervist troops to the border. today strongly asserted egypt's support, i repeat. he warned that quote, egypt today is different from egypt yesterday and the asias today are different from the asias yesterday. joining me now pj crowley. now a professor at george washington university. thank you for joining us. >> a pleasure, eliot. >> eliot: it seems to me with all this screaming and shouting about susan rice's testimony. the only thing that struck me for legitimate upset might be that general petraeus has said he believed it was a terrorist and the u.n. ambassador said originally it was not that. is that a legitimate area of some investigation by congress? >> in fairness to susan rice. she did not say it was an act of terrorist. she didn't rule it out either. she made clear her understanding of what happened would evolve over time. the significance of general petraeus on the hill is to begin a more fullsome process to answer questions that still don't have complete answers. the sec
she went beyond that. >> meanwhile, gas are a firing rockets and israel responded by removing 16,000 reswervist troops to the border. today strongly asserted egypt's support, i repeat. he warned that quote, egypt today is different from egypt yesterday and the asias today are different from the asias yesterday. joining me now pj crowley. now a professor at george washington university. thank you for joining us. >> a pleasure, eliot. >> eliot: it seems to me with all this...
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with 300 in israel. i'm curious about that calculation, 100 to 300. as you noted in your reporting, the hamas rockets are much less accurate. what is the effect that the air strikes, or the israeli air strikes are having gaza, and militarily speaking, are these two sides on equal footing? >> well, you know, the short answer to that is absolutely not. in fact, the israeli ambassador mentioned that half of the population is in bunkers. well, the entire population of gaza is not in bunkers because they don't have bunkers, and there is no early warning system. the only thing we are hearing right now are the sounds of the israeli drones above, with the possibility they could strike any time. when you talk to palestinians, what they will tell you is they are living in a state of fear, a state of terror. they don't know when these attacks are going to happen. and to add to that point, they are not two equal mill tears fighting side by side. the israeli military is one of the most advanced well equipped militari
with 300 in israel. i'm curious about that calculation, 100 to 300. as you noted in your reporting, the hamas rockets are much less accurate. what is the effect that the air strikes, or the israeli air strikes are having gaza, and militarily speaking, are these two sides on equal footing? >> well, you know, the short answer to that is absolutely not. in fact, the israeli ambassador mentioned that half of the population is in bunkers. well, the entire population of gaza is not in bunkers...
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israel is our main ally in the middle east. israel has an absolute right to defend itself. all of us republicans and democrats that stand with the president in supporting israel and, quite frankly, i'm not the military expert, i was a spec 5 in the army, that's as far as i got, but having said that, israel should do whatever it has to to defend itself. the president will work diplomatic channels and i'm not in a position nor do i want to second-guess what israel should do. israel has to determine what it wants to do to preserve its security. >> senator levin, president obama has been in touch with both sides. what do you think of the response by the egyptians? >> it's pretty weak so far from what i can tell. the egyptians have a real interest here in the region not exploding, in the peace agreement continuing to be abided by by them, the agreement that they have with israel, but i think that they're going to have to take some very serious steps diplomatically to make it clear to hamas that they're going to lose support in the arab world if they continue these rocket attacks
israel is our main ally in the middle east. israel has an absolute right to defend itself. all of us republicans and democrats that stand with the president in supporting israel and, quite frankly, i'm not the military expert, i was a spec 5 in the army, that's as far as i got, but having said that, israel should do whatever it has to to defend itself. the president will work diplomatic channels and i'm not in a position nor do i want to second-guess what israel should do. israel has to...
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they have fought wars with israel on behalf of the palestinians. this cuts deep in the arab identity and simply won't give it up, won't let anyone assume the negotiations on behalf of the palestinians and that's why people have seen this, the rise of the muslim brother hood and particularly the presidency of mohammed morsi as a positive sin to be a break through for the region for stability and for u.s. interests as well. >> we will certainly be following it. all roads lead to cairo. that's been true for hundreds if not thousands of years. ayman mohyeldin thank you for your reporting from gaza. stay safe. >>> after the break, loopholes, brackets, increased revenue. are democrats and republicans ready to come to the table and make a deal? we will talk to luke russert and martin bashir about getting a piece of the tax pie, next on "now." ♪ [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, o
they have fought wars with israel on behalf of the palestinians. this cuts deep in the arab identity and simply won't give it up, won't let anyone assume the negotiations on behalf of the palestinians and that's why people have seen this, the rise of the muslim brother hood and particularly the presidency of mohammed morsi as a positive sin to be a break through for the region for stability and for u.s. interests as well. >> we will certainly be following it. all roads lead to cairo....
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israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has potential weapon in withholding tax revenue, collects on behalf of the palestinians. the best outcome here would be the united states goes well, we regret this, let's move on. and then the other aspect would, standing up immediately after this, but today in the u.n. and and say, i'm prepared to go into negotiations without preconditions. if you get those three, you know, legs of the stool, now you have something to kind of work with, if otherwise if everyone takes their own unilateral action you come out of this again, empowering hamas. >> p.j., where is the white house on this? i m
israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has...
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to defuse or is it possible to dee fuse what is going on right now between israel and hamas welcome. >> it's very difficult because the landscape, you know, surrounding gaza has been transformed since we went through this kind of spasm in in 2008. and every potential player here is having to recalculate and it's very difficult to control this. the united states has some cards to play but they're not very strong cards. >> eliot: what role is egypt playing? morsi has been hard to understand. is he going to be an useful advocate in getting hamas to back down or is going to have to play to his domestic audience and continue to back up hamas. >> he has got a very difficult political road to play. he has competing constituencies, and interests. as i know, you know, there is a potential opportunity here. president obama prior to the election was very candid in saying morsi is not yet friend, not adversary. there is an opportunity to find a way to work together to help keep a lid on this crisis. to me i see a parallel between the dilemma that morsi is presented and the dilemma that governor
to defuse or is it possible to dee fuse what is going on right now between israel and hamas welcome. >> it's very difficult because the landscape, you know, surrounding gaza has been transformed since we went through this kind of spasm in in 2008. and every potential player here is having to recalculate and it's very difficult to control this. the united states has some cards to play but they're not very strong cards. >> eliot: what role is egypt playing? morsi has been hard to...
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oil prices jump more than 1% after israel launched an operation against militants in benghazi, killing hamas's military chief. as for the economy, the retail sales fell in october, first decline in three months. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." >>> do you think photo i.d. would have made any difference? the outcome of this election? >> yes, i think so. we're looking at all sorts of different precincts and all sorts of same-day registrations. people will go on, we don't have fraud and abuse in our election, but why couldn't we have voter i.d. when majority of our people in wisconsin want it, the governor signed it. why should one judge be able to hold it up? >> there you have the problem with the republican party. pay a lot of attention to that what that woman just said, senate senator. that's the state -- state senator wisconsin, i don't know her, served as mitt romney's co-chair in the state and now she's saying suppressing the voter i.d. cards would have made the difference in wisconsin. let's look at the facts. apparently she's not interested
oil prices jump more than 1% after israel launched an operation against militants in benghazi, killing hamas's military chief. as for the economy, the retail sales fell in october, first decline in three months. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." >>> do you think photo i.d. would have made any difference? the outcome of this election? >> yes, i think so. we're looking at all sorts of different precincts and all sorts of same-day...
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a different scene here in israel. there was empty streets, quiet, a sense here there's nothing much to celebrate. the israeli defense minister said this is a cease-fire that he believes will be recognized and enforced but also said, judging by experience, it may not last very long. that's what we have here in israel. skepticism about the cease-fire. great hope it will last. another development this morning, the israelis on the west bank arrested about 55 members of the hamas and other islamic militant organizations in gaza, saying that they represented the terrorist threat and that follows the bus bomb yesterday here in tel aviv. the first bus bomb, first bomb attack in tel aviv in six years. that's a reminder that although israel now has a cease-fire in gaza and everyone's working on maintaining the cease-fire and enforcing it, israel has plenty of other problems, too, it needs to face up with. >> martin fletcher, thank you. >>> back here at home, millions of people hitting the roads, the runways and malls over the n
a different scene here in israel. there was empty streets, quiet, a sense here there's nothing much to celebrate. the israeli defense minister said this is a cease-fire that he believes will be recognized and enforced but also said, judging by experience, it may not last very long. that's what we have here in israel. skepticism about the cease-fire. great hope it will last. another development this morning, the israelis on the west bank arrested about 55 members of the hamas and other islamic...
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. >> greta: how do you think things are received in israel, now that we have had the election and prime minister netanyahu alined with governor romney and he had a frosty relationship, it was reported with president obama, going back to a year and-a-half, when he dressed him down in the oval office. does this re-election change anything in the middle-east at all? >> obviously, i think it strengthens president obama's hand next time he sits down with prime minister netanyahu. but whatever the tensions that might be between the relationship between those two leaders, i think in our lifetime, the ties between the united states and israel and the american people and the israeli people have never been stronger. so this is a solid relationship. and these two leaders will make it work between them because it is important that it works between the two countries. >> if it makes a big difference, the red line that netanyahu drew before the assembly, had that red line occurs. the president does not -- has not agreed to this red line. but -- which is when iran moves to the next stage in the nuclear
. >> greta: how do you think things are received in israel, now that we have had the election and prime minister netanyahu alined with governor romney and he had a frosty relationship, it was reported with president obama, going back to a year and-a-half, when he dressed him down in the oval office. does this re-election change anything in the middle-east at all? >> obviously, i think it strengthens president obama's hand next time he sits down with prime minister netanyahu. but...
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ultimately israel has to find a way to deal with it either on its own or with us. >> israel has talked about a ship that's loaded with rockets potentially heading to gaza. so is there another crisis brewing? where do we stand with the cease-fire, where both sides seem to be testing each other the last few days? >> i believe the cease-fire in fact is going to hold. if you look at all three parties who were involved in it aside from the united states, who i think did play a pivotal role at the end. president morsi, the last thing he needs is for something he brokered to break down. it enhances his power. he has problems on the inside, he doesn't need a problem on the outside. hamas is claiming they had great achievements. if they get back into a conflict with the israelis, there go those achievements. and the israelis obviously want to have calm as well. so i think all three sides have an interest in preserving this. there will be tests from time to time, that's a given. the fact that the iranians will try to get arms in there very quickly is also a given. i think the israelis will act t
ultimately israel has to find a way to deal with it either on its own or with us. >> israel has talked about a ship that's loaded with rockets potentially heading to gaza. so is there another crisis brewing? where do we stand with the cease-fire, where both sides seem to be testing each other the last few days? >> i believe the cease-fire in fact is going to hold. if you look at all three parties who were involved in it aside from the united states, who i think did play a pivotal...
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and israel. here's israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier today. >> the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. and they must be prepared to end the conflict with israel once and for all. none of these vital interests, these vital interests of peace, none of them appear in the resolution that will be put forward before the general assembly today. and that is why israel cannot accept it. >> joining me now to talk more about this, former state department mideast officer joel ruben. also palestinian italian journalist and msnbc contributor willa jabroe. both israel and the u.s. say the resolution violates agreements to solve issues through negotiations which broke down two years ago. on the heels of the recent violent clashes between gaza and israel is now the right time for this vote? >> well, it's a fate acomply that the vote is going to take place. it's been in the works for some time before -- really the bigger issue is how will the parties react after it? there's been a calm re
and israel. here's israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier today. >> the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. and they must be prepared to end the conflict with israel once and for all. none of these vital interests, these vital interests of peace, none of them appear in the resolution that will be put forward before the general assembly today. and that is why israel cannot accept it. >> joining me now to talk more about this, former state department mideast...
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israel says three rockets were launched from gaza into israel on thursday. and a shooting incident at the border today has both sides on edge. joining me now is sara sidner in jerusalem. sara, hamas is saying right now that some israeli troops opened fire on palestinian citizens. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, they have very differing story from what the israeli military's saying. here's what the hamas health ministry has said. they said that one person was killed and that 24 people were injured. they say that they were farmers, they were on the gaza side of the border and that the israeli military opened fire on them. however, in talking to the israeli military, they say that there were several groups of men who were protesting, come up to the fence, some trying to enter israel and that the soldiers fired in the air warning shots. when the warnings were not heeded, they began firing toward their legs. the israeli military has not confirmed yet that there's been a death or any injuries. they are investigating. but what makes it significant is that
israel says three rockets were launched from gaza into israel on thursday. and a shooting incident at the border today has both sides on edge. joining me now is sara sidner in jerusalem. sara, hamas is saying right now that some israeli troops opened fire on palestinian citizens. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, they have very differing story from what the israeli military's saying. here's what the hamas health ministry has said. they said that one person was killed and that 24...
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we go from there to israel. nbc's martin fletcher is standing by in tel aviv for us. benjamin netanyahu spoke to the media a couple of hours ago. what did he say, martin? >> he said that they were celebrating in gaz a. he said here israel delivered what he called a massive blow against hamas and gaza, destroying much of the military infrastructure, destroying much of their long-range rockets. he said to the israeli people that he believed the truce is lasting for israel at this time. and those are the critical words, at this time. israel is looking with great skepticism at the cease-fire, waiting to see whether rockets resume, if not now, in weeks, months, and hopefully another round will not occur. but that's everybody's expectation. i want to say to what ayman was saying about the declaration of victory in gaza. the path for victory for hamas is very, very low, and the path for victory for israel is very, very high. israel has much higher demands, a complete stop to all rockets firing. >> interesting in the balance you point out there. let me ask you quickly, martin
we go from there to israel. nbc's martin fletcher is standing by in tel aviv for us. benjamin netanyahu spoke to the media a couple of hours ago. what did he say, martin? >> he said that they were celebrating in gaz a. he said here israel delivered what he called a massive blow against hamas and gaza, destroying much of the military infrastructure, destroying much of their long-range rockets. he said to the israeli people that he believed the truce is lasting for israel at this time. and...
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the whole trip to asia comes in the midst of a flairup between israel and gaza. we don't know what started the most-recent round of fighting, but we do know a strike killed the top commander of hamas in gaza on wednesday and that was followed by rocket attacks aimed the israel and tel aviv. the attacks appeared to be rapidly escalating including sounds they are preparing for a ground incursion. israeli tanks massing on the border with gaza. amid-all of this in the world, today washington was consumed with two issues. the first was the start of negotiations to head off a deliberate crisis that d.c. created for itself so they could come to a few new deal between the parties and congress on spending and taxes and the deficit. that negotiation started today. the white house said top staffers will be continuing those negotiations that started today even while the president is off on this big historic trip to asia. the other thing consuming washington is the investigation into what happened in benghazi. in the midst of his sex scandal, but the head of the cia david pet
the whole trip to asia comes in the midst of a flairup between israel and gaza. we don't know what started the most-recent round of fighting, but we do know a strike killed the top commander of hamas in gaza on wednesday and that was followed by rocket attacks aimed the israel and tel aviv. the attacks appeared to be rapidly escalating including sounds they are preparing for a ground incursion. israeli tanks massing on the border with gaza. amid-all of this in the world, today washington was...
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equal in status with israel, and the united states. and anybody else belonging to the u.n. just for some context here, though, the plo has been a permanent observer. that's been their status since 1974. and that has given palestinians the right to speak out and be heard at the assembly. but it doesn't give them a right to vote. richard roth, who covers the u.n. extensively and is our cnn favorite on this topic, is there to really give a little more context as to what they wanted to and what kind of status it would give them and how far up in status it would actually elevate them. richard, tell us what it means. >> okay. first, just to clarify, hamas not really here with the palestinians. the palestinian president abbas is in new york, met with the secretary general last night. yes, this is, as usual with the u.n., words matter. sometimes one letter in a document could be a time bomb. what we have here is the u.n. upgrading later today the status of the palestinians here. they are in effect going to become sort of a state within a group of states. but really, as you mentione
equal in status with israel, and the united states. and anybody else belonging to the u.n. just for some context here, though, the plo has been a permanent observer. that's been their status since 1974. and that has given palestinians the right to speak out and be heard at the assembly. but it doesn't give them a right to vote. richard roth, who covers the u.n. extensively and is our cnn favorite on this topic, is there to really give a little more context as to what they wanted to and what...
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. >> eliot: fascinating development in israel where the prime minister olmert said that he supports it. does that mean they're moving towards meaningful peace negotiations. >> there is an election coming up in israel. what has been missing in past elections is the peace center or left. as they formed a new party this week, if they're going to play that role, either can challenge the incumbent government or moderate its stance and try to see after the u.n. petition tomorrow with the palestinians
. >> eliot: fascinating development in israel where the prime minister olmert said that he supports it. does that mean they're moving towards meaningful peace negotiations. >> there is an election coming up in israel. what has been missing in past elections is the peace center or left. as they formed a new party this week, if they're going to play that role, either can challenge the incumbent government or moderate its stance and try to see after the u.n. petition tomorrow with the...
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says needs to be done at the peace table with israel. >> all right. elise labott and richard roth, thanks to both of you. we'll be right back. ♪ we were skipping stones and letting go ♪ [ female announcer ] nature valley granola bars, rich dark chocolate, toasted oats. perfect combinations of nature's delicious ingredients, from nature valley. ♪ nature valley granola bars, nature at its most delicious. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to...
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fletcher in israel and what's the israeli government saying about what happened at the border today, if anything? >> reporter: well, they are talking but not much. they are saying that the troops were stationed at the border about 300 palestinians came towards the border fence, further than israeli wanted them to go. they have a 300-yard no go area and the palestinians kept coming and approached the fence. the israelis fired warning shots in the air and then the soldiers fired at their legs. that's what the israeli army is saying and they are not confirming they killed anybody. the 300 yard no-go area is there because for years the israelis have been worried that palestinian militants would approach the fence and lay land mines across the fence. that's why the no go area is there. today of course with the cease fire in place, apparently palestinians were testing to see how forward they can go under the new conditions. >> martin fletcher in israel. thank you so much. in gaza, hamas has already condemned the death of the man killed at the border. ayman, has hamas taken action since con
fletcher in israel and what's the israeli government saying about what happened at the border today, if anything? >> reporter: well, they are talking but not much. they are saying that the troops were stationed at the border about 300 palestinians came towards the border fence, further than israeli wanted them to go. they have a 300-yard no go area and the palestinians kept coming and approached the fence. the israelis fired warning shots in the air and then the soldiers fired at their...